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« on: November 22, 2009, 07:02:33 AM »

I make no bones about the fact that I consider the emerging/emergent church potentially to be the most destructive movement today, but I am afraid that a growing number are beginning to feel just the opposite. When you are used to browsing the boards and posts here on the forum, and the blogs we run, it's easy to think that the whole of Christendom is awake to the potential of this movement to undermine the truth of God. However the following post shows that in fact, there are many mainstream evangelical ministries that are being taken in by the seducing spirit of this deciever.

http://www.baptiststandard.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10365&Itemid=9
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 05:03:04 PM »

He could have simplified his statement by saying that Emergents are relativists.  The only problem is that he's presenting a relativistic view of relativism.  Unfortunately, Heaven and Hell are about as absolute as you can get.  There is no relative Heaven.  You either get there or you don't.  Preaching relativism merely blurs the line that distinguishes between who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell.  The line, itself, is fine enough, cut by the same sword that divides bone from marrow.  The only difference is that they would have us not know where that line is.  That means more of us would go to Hell, thinking that we're not. thumbdown
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 07:25:19 PM »

Okay,  whistling I've been meaning to write this anyway, so here it is.  I hope you don't find it to be too far-out.

http://nonaeroterraqueous.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/postmodern-madness/
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 01:24:49 AM »

Hi Mark
I went to your link - thank you for making the  pre-mod/mod/post-mod so clear. It all makes such sense when broken down so simply. We hear these terms bandied around, and the descriptions of them are often so 'high-brow' that they are quite complicated to follow and they blur the lines of distinction.

Often Christians even do not want to hear the truth and react with outrage when it is heard for the first time. I remember being utterly floored when I heard the real Gospel and that it was not what I had been taught and had believed for so long and that so much was missing and I had been dished out a half-truth along with ' other'.

It can bring an outrage and a fear, until the Lord deals with you and it gnaws at you in your heart until you are brought to a place of revelation and you just know that it is indeed the Truth and you are able to fall on your knees before the Lord and allow Him to bring it about. No wonder the Lord says in Jeremiah 17:9, “ The heart is deceitful above all things,And desperately wicked; Who can know it?

We are very quick to deceive ourselves as it suits us not to change our lives, to take up our crosses and follow Him, (if we have even heard or know about it), along the Narrow Way, which certainly does not suit the natural man/woman  in his/ her flesh ever. Humans are masters of compromise.

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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 06:01:01 AM »

Okay,  whistling I've been meaning to write this anyway, so here it is.  I hope you don't find it to be too far-out.

http://nonaeroterraqueous.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/postmodern-madness/


Hi Mark,

I just read through your post and thought it wonderfully clear. The whole mentality of rejecting the truth for a lie, and then rejecting that lie to embrace a lie that is even further from the truth, is something that I believe bang on the money. I know this is coming from a different angle, but nevertheless I believe is closely related, and that is the lead I have felt drawn to in the messages I have shared in our fellowship over the last couple of weeks. They have been concerning the importance of serving God with our mind also, and the need to fight fervently to see God's revealed truth to be established in our own minds, and those surrounding us.


By the way Mark, how come you haven't shared the details of your blog here? Would you mind if the details were included amongst the blogroll, or if I linked to an article or two from my own blog?

God bless,

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 10:50:05 AM »

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By the way Mark, how come you haven't shared the details of your blog here? Would you mind if the details were included amongst the blogroll, or if I linked to an article or two from my own blog?

Well, I don't like to toot my own horn.  To tell the truth, I was watching my readership stats grow exponentially, and it was kind of freaking me out.  I've learned to avoid looking at it by entering my own blog through a back door, so to speak.  You can put it on a blogroll, link to it, quote it, plagiarize it or whatever you like, but I, personally, won't be doing much to draw anymore readers to it, except with an occasional link here because I'm too lazy to make my point twice.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 01:21:32 AM »

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 You can put it on a blogroll, link to it, quote it, plagiarize it or whatever you like, but I, personally, won't be doing much to draw anymore readers to it, except with an occasional link here because I'm too lazy to make my point twice.

Heehee! No probs dude. I'm sure a link here or there isn't going to cause a stampede or anything! lol clown
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